The Blair Hippo Project ([info]blairhippo) wrote,
@ 2009-05-12 12:40:00
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Star Trek: The Quest for More Money
First, let's get the unpleasantries out of the way: it's dumb. Dumb as a bag of socks. Trek has never been a bastion of scientific accuracy or internal consistency, but come on. The scientific illiteracy on display in this movie makes the evolution-based technobabble in "Heroes" look like a graduate-level biology course. One exposition scene in particular kept pimp-slapping me with so much Stupid that I started bleeding into my brain. The BadGuys' backstory, while intriguing in theory, fails in execution because their "mining ship" is, inside and out, an unambiguous Mobile Fortress of Doom. (Seriously, what the hell are you "mining" that requires self-guided torpedoes to hit?) The chief Maguffin is best described as the Lava Lamp of the Apocalypse.

It's the sort of movie that lends itself immense snarkery. It's also a hell of a lot of fun.

It wants to be big fat popcorn spectacle, and it succeeds admirably; this is kinetic big-budget effects-driven action at its finest. It also wants to hand off the characters to a new batch of actors, and does so amazingly well. The worst you could say about any of the main characters is that a few of them were underdeveloped (no surprise, all things considered) and left to the tender mercies of a script that loved it some pratfalls. (I'm thinking primarily of Scotty, particularly when he runs afoul of the previously unseen Wonka section of engineering.) But at best ... damn. Karl Urban owned McCoy; from the moment he comes on screen you know exactly who this guy is, even if you've never seen a minute of Trek before in your life. And Zachary Quinto (Sylar from "Heroes") came through in a huge way as Spock, bringing his conflicted inner self to life in a way that even Leonard Nimoy rarely managed. Nimoy's Spock was an icon; Quinto's is a person. Congratulations, Mr. Quinto: any fears you had about being permanently type-cast as a superpowered psycho are officially laid to rest.

In short, this is a movie of extremes; the bad parts are simply gawd-awful, but what it does well it does very well. Whether or not you enjoy it will depend entirely on which elements stand out the most for you, for good or ill.

(Of course, there was one plot hole that I haven't seen discussed anywhere else yet ... but it's so goddamn nerdy I'm hiding it behind a cut tag.)


Okay, the opening scene? Because the Mining Ship of DOOOOOM is only just now forking the timeline, everything prior to that point is supposed to be canon with the original series. And yet, the captain of the USS Kelvin recognizes the crew of the hostile vessel as Romulan, even though the original-series episode "Balance of Terror" made it very clear that up until that point, nobody in the Federation even knew what Romulans looked like. Revealing them as Evil Vulcans was actually a major plot point. Nobody in the movie should have had any idea they were Romulan!

I warned you it was nerdy.



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[info]mike_brendan
2009-05-12 05:18 pm UTC (link)
I had a different single point of beef that harkens to the "scientific illiteracy" you mention, but I'll not go into that here.

But still, yeah, fun film. Enjoyed it immensely.

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Just one? ;-)

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[info]mike_brendan
2009-05-12 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Just one... I don't look to Trek for scientific accuracy in the first place but this just made me go "waaaaaait a second..."

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Was it the way black holes can stop supernovae in their tracks, or can cause you to travel backwards in time, or hold a ship still like it's in flypaper until the chief engineer does something stupid, all depending on the needs of the plot?

Was it Vulcan being a brief half-hour jaunt away from Earth?

Was it Spock just hanging out on Hoth and not even bothering to try and get to the Federation outpost to maybe get a warning message off to Vulcan?

Was it how Enterprise had been zipping away from Vulcan at FTL speeds for several minutes but when Kirk gets kicked off, he winds up on a planet within visual distance of Vulcan?

Was it the supply of Apocalyptic Lava Lamp Goo was several thousand times larger than was needed for the purpose for which it was originally produced?

Was it a single guy could operate an auto-pilot-free starship in combat so effectively that he gave several dozen shuttles enough time to get away even though they were limited to slower-than-light travel and their aggressor wasn't?

Was it the supernova that threatened the entire galaxy?

Was it Iowa Canyon?

It was Iowa Canyon, wasn't it.

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[info]mike_brendan
2009-05-18 06:36 pm UTC (link)
1) DING! on the first bit.

2) Didn't really pay that any heed because they weren't doing the story as a "real-time" kind of film

3) Brain was switched off for fun purposes.

4) Raised an eyebrow, but #3 was still in effect.

5) That was a hell of a lot of nasty, wasn't it?

6) See #3

7) DING DING DING!

8) See #3. I'll pass that off as the results of the Eugenics Wars.

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[info]ketsugami
2009-05-12 05:19 pm UTC (link)
If you have a weapon that creates a black hole, and want to destroy a planet, why would you need to drill into the *center* of the planet to deploy it?

Also, is it me, or can future!Spock now gift the federation with various awesome technology? He's already created "trans-warp beaming".

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 05:55 pm UTC (link)
Because then the planet collapses unevenly, and you looks stupid. (Which it did anyway. These guys suck at mining.)

And yes, I'm sure Spock Prime will gift the Federation with as much awesome FutureTech as subsequent scripts demand.

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[info]krylyr
2009-05-12 06:25 pm UTC (link)
So...Spock as a different sort of Q?

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 07:36 pm UTC (link)
I don't recall Q ever giving the Federation much -- save for the knowledge that somebody else was even more smugly patronizing than they were. Which, I admit, must have been pretty humbling.

And I can't imagine Spock tossing people into no-win situations just to watch them....

Waitaminnit....

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[info]krylyr
2009-05-12 05:35 pm UTC (link)
Heh. That is a big piece of nerdity on display. But it is entirely valid and I probably wouldn't have thought of it otherwise. Well played!

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 05:56 pm UTC (link)
I even quoted the episode by name without having to look it up. I am burning with shame.

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[info]ketsugami
2009-05-12 06:10 pm UTC (link)
That's one of the few episodes I could quote by name. But can you quote the movie on which it was based? =)

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 06:17 pm UTC (link)
The Maltese Bird of Prey?

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[info]ketsugami
2009-05-12 06:36 pm UTC (link)
According to the producers, Run Silent Run Deep.

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 07:38 pm UTC (link)
Cool.

I gladly cede alpha-nerd status, sir. :-)

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[info]ketsugami
2009-05-12 07:39 pm UTC (link)
I totally forget in what context I learned that, too. ^^

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[info]themachinestops
2009-05-12 06:52 pm UTC (link)
The science isn't the point, the characters are. Original Trek is the only series I like, I don't care for the movies, but this was classic. True to the characters and so full of references, but something non-geeks can also enjoy. The look and feel of the ship and other technology was also very faithful, I was pretty afraid it would look like Battlestar Galactica or some other piece of sci-fi crap. They even snuck in the word "dilithium"!

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 07:07 pm UTC (link)
As a general rule, I prefer entertainment that rewards me for thinking about it in a bit more depth. This version of Star Trek was intent on punishing me vigorously for doing so.

But the plethora of in-jokes were done quite well and gave the fans something to snicker at without detracting from the movie, and you're right: they nailed the characters dead-on. That will redeem a whole bunch of sins.

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[info]simbel_myne
2009-05-12 08:27 pm UTC (link)
recognition of the romulan is the first clue that this is a new timeline? also demonstrated by the first thing we see is kirk's story revised?

I know not, I am not versed in the trek lore.

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[info]blairhippo
2009-05-12 08:34 pm UTC (link)
The appearance of the Mining Ship of DOOOOOM is explicitly defined as the point at which the movie's timeline diverges from original Trek. This is what explains why Kirk's story is different, but if everything prior to that point is the same, they shouldn't have been able to recognize the Romulans; these would have been the first Romulans the Federation had ever actually seen.

... not that it much matters. I always thought that was a pretty bloody silly plot point in "Balance of Terror" to begin with. (You fought a war against these guys yet you never recovered a single enemy corpse after the battle was over? Really?) I'm indulging in Comic-Shop-Guy-level pedantry pretty much for the hell of it. :-)

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[info]midwest_siren
2009-05-16 02:48 am UTC (link)
You know...if they don't feel compelled to create a follow-up flick, I will feel much better about the first. Or, if they hire a decent writer for a second flick and manage to keep all the same actors, the reboot might actually be worthwhile.

It was good to hear your thoughts on this one. Personally, I turned off my brain and enjoyed. ;)

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